Mod Sun is done playing it safe. His latest single, Rich Kids Ruin Everything, isn’t just a song—it’s a statement. “I wanted to make something polarizing,” he says. “Love it or hate it, but don’t be indifferent.” He calls it the start of a new era, one that builds on the foundation of his last album, Internet Killed the Rockstar, but pushes things even further. “That record had a loose concept. This time, I’m making something even more cohesive.”
And no, he’s not going to tell us the album title just yet. “I’m pretty sold on it,” he teases, “but I like to keep people guessing.” What he will say is that every song is being crafted around a larger vision—one that champions originality over trends. “TikTok is this endless cycle of copying. It’s like, ‘Hey, that worked—do the exact same thing.’ That’s not what I’m about.”
For Mod Sun, making music isn’t just about sound—it’s about world-building. “I see a whole movie in my head when I make a song,” he explains. “That’s why I co-direct all my music videos. There’s no ROI in music videos anymore, but I don’t care. It’s about the art.”
Speaking of movies, his directorial debut, Good Mourning, is on the way—“sooner than you think.” Writing and directing a feature-length film was a whole different beast, but he embraced it. “Making an album feels natural at this point. Making a movie? That was a real job,” he laughs. “You create entire backstories for characters that the audience never even knows about, just so the actors can inhabit them.”
His creative world extends beyond his own music, too. He was deeply involved in Avril Lavigne’s Love Sux album—both as a co-writer and as her partner at the time. “Falling in love while making music together? That’s pretty special,” he says. “It wasn’t like, ‘Oh, we’re in love, so let’s write love songs.’ We had a vision and stuck to it.”
That vision also extends to his new documentary, Remember Me Like This, which he admits was a bit of a gut punch to watch back. “I’m an open book, but seeing it with my mom and sister? Yeah, that was a little intense,” he admits. But he sees it as necessary. “I want die-hard supporters. I want people to understand where I came from, how I got here.”
And where he’s going next? “Let’s just say special things are ahead,” he says with a grin. “I like a challenge. And if I’m afraid, that just means I’m doing it right.”
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